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THIS MESSAGE WAS PREACHED IN APRIL 1995, AFTER THE BOMBING OF THE FEDERAL BUILDING IN OKLAHOMA CITY.
I have been very concerned about something that has been going on since the bombing in Oklahoma. I want you to know I have lost several nights of sleep. When we turned the news on last Tuesday morning and saw what a tragedy had been thrust upon those poor people, it was hard to think of anyone being that cruel and heartless. Those people were running, carrying bloody children from the wreckage. Others were running away from it with faces cut to pieces; and it made me think it was almost like the war I had been in. I will say this for sure, You will never find any true, born again Christian doing such things as that. America, as a nation, and as she has been known through the years, is not the nation it used to be. Therefore I have some things to say; and what I am going to say, I can substantiate it. If I say something and you think I said it wrong, come to me after the service is over and we will talk about it. I will pull the book out and show you. I have everything from magazines, history books, encyclopedias, and I have everything marked. I feel compelled to state, that since this has happened we are going to find some trends develop in this nation that are going to begin to make you and me as Christians wonder where our freedom has gone to. We have had freedom through these recent years. When I listen to politicians, the federal government and the philosophers they bring in, along with these terrorist experts, giving their analysis of things like this, and all the psychiatrists that say meaningless words to try to comfort people, I cannot help but notice that you hear very little said about God. They are more or less trying to glorify man’s ability to change the hurt or to comfort, leaving it that man only has man to resort to. Then you hear the politicians, even the president, the FBI and all, coming on strong about these people in America that are so hateful against the federal government, trying to make people feel that if you dislike certain things that people are doing to get certain laws passed, you are touching something you should not touch. In other words, you are against the government. They are really saying that everyone else is stupid, and only they are as a god that has the right to be respected and heard. Well I have the Declaration of Independence with me. I also have the constitution of the United States with me; so I am ready to back up anything I say. I know that some day this may fall into their hands; so I want to say as I start, If they hear it, and I have to answer for it, then I will say, Your honor, We are not a people that you will see standing in front of the White House throwing rocks and demonstrating. You will not find us in front of abortion clinics, screaming, and having to have someone drag us off to jail. We are not going to be found carrying guns to shoot the doctors that come to do their atrocities; and you will not find us walking in the streets, demonstrating, creating civil disturbance. We are Christians. We are not of the Waco group, nor kind. Two years ago, the morning after that Waco place had burned to the ground, the phone rang. Someone from the Courier Journal, in Louisville, said, Is this Rev. Jackson? I said yes. Are you the Rev. Jackson connected with David Koresh? I said, What? Are you the Rev. Jackson associated with the Waco incident? I said, Absolutely not! Sorry, thank you, and they hung up. For twenty five years we have been printing this paper, The Contender. I know we have put some pretty rank things in it, when we were talking about Communism, Catholicism, perversion and so forth. I want anyone who hears this, that is of those who would disagree, to understand, I have said a lot of things against the system of Catholicism. I have a right to, because I have it in the history books, telling what they have done in times past. There is not a politician smart enough to take from me what I have learned from these books about that old apostate system of religion. Even our own federal government has compromised with it. The records of WW2 are right there in a book. We never had the Mafia in this country until after WW2. We had the John Dillinger type; but we did not have the underworld organized, Sicilian, Italian Mafia. We picked them up as our army landed in Sicily and was making its way up through the boot of Italy. For some reason the American military intelligence, according to this man’s writings, felt like they needed the Italian Mafia to collaborate with, because they had agents all over Italy. For some reason the American military intelligence, according to this man’s writings, felt like they needed the Italian Mafia to collaborate with, because they had agents all over Italy. The Germans, in their time of occupation, had been there long enough, those agents knew the ins and outs of every key official. When they took the Mafia on board, they came on board never to leave. When the war was over the Mafia was working with our secret intelligence agents, making counterfeit passes, helping to channel certain German war officials, that should have been at the war tribunals, but the American government wanted certain ones of these to escape, so they could use them as agents to fight Communism. All of it boils down to this, Whatever kind of company you keep, sooner or later it will rub off on you. The last thirty years during the cold war of Russia, has brought to the front many accounts of our own FBI agents that sold their country down the drain, which was something that jeopardized you and me. Our way of life was put in jeopardy and they got he money. We just had the court case for one of those fellows just a few weeks back. I do not know what penalty he got. I just say these things to show you that their skirts are not clean. Now as I say this, they will say, What kind of people are you? We are Bible believing Christians. Everything that is written in the Bible, we have a right to believe it, because our own Constitution says we do. We are not some fanatical bunch that are out in the streets threatening our government, nor threatening any official. As Paul said in Corinthians, “The weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds; Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God.” We have politicians today that could not care less about what God wants. If you say anything about God, Jesus Christ, or anything pertaining to the scriptures, they think you are crazy, a religious fanatic. No. We are not crazy: Nor are we fanatics: we just simply hold to the same principles our founding Fathers held to. We are not saying that all the FBI men are snakes in the grass; but some of them are absolutely using the law to perpetuate their own personal aims. They could not care less whether you are a Christian, or an alcoholic or what. We do believe that we are living in the days just before the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ for His Church. That automatically puts certain people on notice concerning us, because they associate us with all these other fanatical, religious groups scattered all over the face of the earth, which are not even Christians to start with. I will say this, David Koresh was not a Bible believing Christian. He was one of those characters of the last days that is spoken of in the gospel according to Matthew. False Christ, I believe they are called. He had his philosophy. He had his interpretation of the Bible, but he deceived and misled a lot of people It led them to their destruction. Saints, we do not need their weapons. Even if we did, they cost too much. The God we serve does not need weapons like David Koresh had: If He wants them to put us in jail, there is no way you could stop it. Then, if He did not want you to stay in there, they do not have a set of handcuffs or shackles or anything else, not even a jail built that would keep a Holy Ghost child of God in there. They think the days when Peter was in jail and the angel came to set him free are gone; but those who think that, are wrong: We are returning back to them. You do not have to agitate them to get in there, just live and do right and if for some reason they think you are a nut, they will classify you with all the other fanatics and do whatever they can to silence you. I will say this, We are Christians that have done our best to serve our country in any capacity it requires, but we know that there are elements in this country that will spit in our faces if they get the chance. Most of the problem is with government, how they interpret the Constitution which we all have access to. They think because they have an office, it gives them the right to use it to their own discretion. The Declaration of Independence does not say so. Right principles among our leaders seems to be a thing of the past. It just proves that we are at the end.
WHERE ARE WE? WHAT IS THE ANSWER?
I was listening to the news this morning: the president, the Senate, the key elements of Congress are having a session now because they are shook up. What are we going to do about this and that in our nation? They are going to appropriate a billion dollars to put a thousand more FBI agents on the street. To do what? To keep more federal buildings from being blown sky high and innocent people killed. Well what about the rest of the wrong doings? What about the rest of American society that does not live close to those federal buildings, but are in just as much jeopardy? What about those who live on the end of 32nd Street, on the back side of the railroad truck terminals. What are they going to do to protect them? We have drug gangs roam from coast to coast, from border to border, with very little being done to control them. They ride through out towns in Cadillacs, with assault weapons by their side. They are more of a menace to the American society than those who might possibly try to blow up a federal building. If you could get the death report of people killed by them in the last ten years, it would greatly out number the deaths from the Oklahoma bombing. My conclusion is, If you are going after one bunch, go after them all. It is a fact they have passed laws to curb such activity, but the last report I read, the drug industry is still on the increase, and so is the number of victims of drug abuse. What does that tell you? What they have done to this point is not getting the job done. Are we going to point our finger at the little fellow that runs the donut shop on Main Street and say that he is the cause of all this violence? No. Somewhere between the little man and the big man, is a network of politicians, the in between characters that hold the money and help make the decisions. They buy this and they buy that, whatever looks like it could be to their advantage. They program certain approaches to various situations; but what does it ever amount to? Does it sound like I am disturbed by all of this? I hope it does, because I am. America is infested with social disease, political ideas that are running rampant. Yes saints, if I were given the opportunity to speak to the court, I would say, Your honor, I most certain am against this fellow, or those fellows that were responsible for this atrocity in Oklahoma City; but you ought to have thought a long time ago, before you helped create an environment that hatches out such creatures. We never did need Hell’s Angels on our streets and roadways. What good have they been to society at large? You say, Well we have the Constitution that gives them that right. Well I beg to differ with you: It does not give them a right to the kinds of things they do. If the God of heaven were to raise from the dead those men that wrote the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, they would all stand and say to your face, We did not write it with that idea in mind, to give gangs more rights than law abiding citizens that mind their own business. It is very strange, that all through time, practically every form of government that has ever been anything, whether it was a royal kingdom or some other kind, whatever kind of charter is written up as to how that government was to function, even though it may have started out all right, sooner or later the wrong character got in place and began to twist the laws, the articles of faith and so forth, as to how it would affect mankind from then on. We find it was that way in the days of Saul. That is what made David go down to the country and join the rustlers in the hills. That is where they found him. When King Saul chased him with the army, David probably did not like some of those men, but those men liked him. David survived among them. When King Saul came to the area of the cave and night came, he bedded down. That night David, cunning as he was, walked through the grass, tip toeing, and he could have cut that man’s throat, but he had more respect for him than he did for David. I can see him as he got closer to the silhouette of the man lying there with is bodyguards all around, snoring, sound asleep. David pulled his javelin out, reached down and cut the corner of his robe off, and went back to the cave. The next morning as things began to stir in the camp, King David cried out, Saul! Saul said, David is that you? You know the story. It is recorded in 1st Samuel. Anyhow, We have a nation drifting just like that. I know history is boring to some people; but I want to show you where you came from. I want to show you also, why you should be glad that you were born in this country rather than some island in the Pacific, or some far flung region on this planet that never heard about God? In the history of America there have been some very sad episodes; but let me remind you, I have enough history I can pull out of there to make you weep, as I show you what the yellow race has done in the Orients in the past three thousand years. I will tell you what the Japanese did in the Philippines. We have men in America, educators, philosophers, that have no more respect for God than they do for a jack rabbit. I have one book, the rewriting of American history. You hear it said as the government has been pressured by all the liberal voices in our government, WE need to appropriate more money for the arts; but saints I want to show you that some of these things they call art, comes right out of hell. In one painting they showed Jesus having a sex relation with Mary Magdalene. Do you want your tax dollars to support anything like that? Another painting portrayed God, which we all know is a Spirit, but they do not know that: They think He is an old person with a long beard; and this one portrays Him carrying on a homosexual act with the devil. Do you know what that is? That is blasphemy in the worst way. Yes, we have men in America, and I do not care what color they are, nor what college they came out of, they are the kind of people that seventeen years ago, in Sweden, made a movie (that was kept out of the United States for awhile, but has finally made an entrance) portraying Jesus and Mary Magdalene having sexual intercourse. What does that tell me? It tells me there is a spirit on this earth today that could only be here at the end time. You can know by the prevailing spirit, that time is running out. The Spirit of God is lifting: Therefore there is no longer any convicting power; and because God is lifting His conviction power, mankind is going berserk. Man without God, goes crazy. As that movie was made, out of France came a novel: Two individuals in France were claiming to be descendants of that relationship between Jesus and Mary Magdalene. Now saints, I ask you earnestly, Do you want your mind to be programmed with such junk as that? A lot of this stuff that has had tax dollars secretly afforded to it, has helped desecrate the libraries with literature that is not worth two cents for anything. However if you say anything about it, you are the trouble maker: You are the one disturbing society. We do not want you here, they will say. They call what they do, freedom of expression. Freedom of expression can be right up to a point, but when it goes beyond that point it is perversion. Only the devil will scream for something like that.
THINGS SAID BY WILLIAM BRANHAM
We have titled this message, “Can You See the End?” We will mention many times what Bro. Branham spoke years ago. I realize none of you young people were here yet; but here is what he says: I am going to read it slowly and I want us to analyze it. It was all in our news; and society back then was aware of it; and it is all still lying out there somewhere. He said this happened on a Sunday morning in June 1933. “The Lord Jesus spoke to me, and said that the coming of the Lord was drawing nigh, (That was sixty two years ago; so I have to believe the end is getting very close by now.) But before He came, seven major events would transpire. I wrote them all down; and that morning I gave forth the revelation of the Lord. (1) The first vision was that Mussolini would invade Ethiopia and that nation would fall at his steps. That vision surely did cause some repercussions, and some were very angry when I said it, and would not believe it; but it happened that way. He just walked in there with his modern arms and took over. The natives didn’t have a chance. But the vision also said that Mussolini would come to a horrible end with his own people turning on him. That came to pass just exactly as it was said.” I am going to give you a picture of it. Right here is a picture of Mussolini and his mistress hanging upside down. The foot notes tell you that when he invaded Ethiopia, army of his followers thought he was another Caesar Augustus. Because Ethiopia fell at his entrance they felt this was the man that would restore the Roman Empire. In the states, Pentecostal Bible prophetic preachers began to say Mussolini is the antichrist. Charles Price, the great Pentecostal evangelist that was alive between WW1 and WW2, I heard a man say he was preaching and teaching Mussolini was the antichrist. In a tent meeting out west he had announced to the people that before the meeting was over he would have his books in print and have them in the tent. However the day he got the books the news came forth, Mussolini and his mistress and their personal bodyguards were hung in the streets of Milan. What did he do? He made his announcement to the people saying, A man can be wrong. There, it tells the story. We will go on now. (2) “The next vision foretold that an Austrian by the name of Adolph Hitler would rise up as dictator over Germany, and that he would draw the world into war. It showed the Siegfried line and how our troops would have a terrible time to over come it. Then it showed Hitler would come to a mysterious end.” He did. I am going to read the footnotes here. Here, it shows Hitler in the final days of the siege as the Russians were moving toward Berlin. He had drained his resources. He had put twelve year old boys in uniform; and this shows him patting them on the cheek, blessing them, sending them off to fight the Russians who were fast approaching. Twelve year old boys, imagine that. He had totally exhausted his manpower reserve. Here is what is said. “He was the most destructive human being in world history. In twelve horrifying years, from 1933 until 1945, Adolph Hitler conquered twenty two countries, caused the death of thirty five million people and reduced most of Europe to rubble. At its greatest extent, his empire stretched from the Caucus to the Atlantic and from the Sahara to the Arctic Bay.” His health shattered, fifty feet below ground, when the Russians were outside the eastern perimeter of Berlin, he had married his mistress that he had pleasure with during all those years, married her the day before, had a celebration in the bunker, fifty feet down, then she took a cyanide pill and he blew his brains out. The world has never been brought to such a brink of disaster as that character brought it to. As I go along I am bringing these thing into the picture to let you know I am not saying one thing that I need to be ashamed of. Now I will try to read the rest of Bro. Branham’s vision. (3) “The third vision was in the realm of world politics for it showed me there would be three great ISMS, Fascism, Nazism and Communism, but that first two would be swallowed up into the third. The voice admonished, WATCH RUSSIA, WATCH RUSSIA. Keep your eye on the King of the North.” I remember when the Spanish Revolution went on: That was when the communists were in the Spanish country and tried to make a take over, and they fought in the ancient capitol of Spain, old Toledo. That is where the king at that time, and his forces, were, up in the king’s palace. My wife and I, were privileged to be there on a tour years ago. There you see all the writings, how many days they were there in that palace and all. The food supply got low; and they would take a motor cycle, jack it up and run a small feed grinder with it. They ground corn into meal to feed each other. The Communist rebels had captured the king’s son. Outside they had asked to speak tot he king. AS he made himself noticed on the wall, they said either surrender or we kill him. His son said, Don’t surrender: Long live the king. It wasn’t like they do today. You hear the father’s words on a recording as the conversation went on. They did kill his son. Well that was Fascism. It was followed shortly by Nazism, as Hitler made his move. From the year of 1933 through 1945, Hitler spread his brand of Nazism and brought such a chaotic condition upon the world, it can never be forgotten. Notice, no sooner does the war die away and the smoke is cleared, here is that other ism rising. From the land of Russia went agents forth; and they went to the ends of the earth sowing their seed. Here t was in the Carribean, all up and down the country of Africa, practically every little nation over there was touched by it. There were those Communist agents doing their best to overthrow any other kind of government that the Colonial systems had put in there. The natives were rebelling, killing and slaughtering one another. Well, we absolutely spent ourselves into a dilemma. AS Russia bought her supporters, through her aides, such as Castro and all those kind of people, she tried to spread it into Latin America, we were right behind, trying to buy, in other words trying to buy friendship. We will give you more aide than Russia will, just stay on our side. That is all it amounted to. So for forty years we have pumped aide to countries with their political hands outstretched. If you would go there today you would find virtually little that those dollars ever did to benefit anyone. I read a few years ago, that we gave one year, so many millions of dollars to Egypt to build a water pipeline to reach a certain point. When it was done, nobody knew how to run the thing, so it is still there. At the time the article was written, it was still not in use. That is the way our foreign aide has went through the recent years. We can see what Communism has done to the world. It has terrorized the world. It has kept the world at bay. It has caused nation to be against nation. It has actually held back the growth of Israel in the Middle East, because we were afraid if we go too far with Israel, then Russia will side with the Arabs and here we are with a dilemma. I will never forget the Yom Kippur War. Keep in mind Israel had already gained the victory over Egypt ad those Arab countries in the Six Day War. But in the year of 1973 on Yom Kippur day, when by the Law Israeli troops were not to fight because it is a feast, a holy day. But the Egyptians attacked. As they did, they crossed the Red Sea, they hit that particular line that the Israeli forced had built, surrounded it with major forces. It looked like Israel was really hard pressed. There was an article that came out in a certain national paper, (Golda Maier was the Premier at the time.) After Israel had shot all their artillery ammunition, on the hot line she called for our president, Will you please help us, we are out of ammunition. If you do not help us, then we fear we lose. Our giant transport planes, immediately, around the clock, one of the largest air lifts set in motion. Those planes, twenty four hours around the clock, sent tanks, artillery pieces, guns and ammunition to Israel. When those supplies began to reach the Israeli army, she took courage. One year when we were in Israel our guide told us how they were able to overcome against both the Syrians and the Egyptians. What they did, Israeli soldiers dressed in captured Egyptians uniforms, soldiers that could also speak the Egyptian dialect, they did a flank maneuver, going into the Sinai and crossing the Red Sea with an amphibious invasion, way down below the populated area. As they crossed the Red Sea, came up the other side on the Egyptian side, through these villages, here come the Egyptian women out with all kinds of pastries and things, because they thought they were Egyptian soldiers, waving them on to victory. But it was actually Israeli soldiers heading for Cairo. When the Egyptian soldiers still in the Sinai, realized they were trapped, and Israel had cut off their supply lines, (That was Israel’s main objective) then Russia on the hot line said to our President, Stop the war or we come in. So we then tell Israel, Don’t go any further or it will bring about a war. Well, all of that lets us know Russia has been a great big obstacle in the way of a lot of other things that has went on in the world; but we are well past that stage of Bro. Branham’s visions; so let us look at the next one. (4) “the fourth vision showed the great advances in science (Watch what happened since WW2) that would come after the second world war. It was headed up in the vision of a plastic bubble topped car that was running down beautiful highways under remote control, so that people appeared seated in that car without a steering wheel, and they were playing some sort of game to amuse themselves.” Such a car has been in the show room by different auto industries for several years. I have seen pictures of different models, made by different companies, that are ready for that kind of highway, but they do not have that kind of highway yet. Nevertheless the cars of various manufacturers are there. Let us move on to the next one. Alright as we move beyond that. (5) “The fifth vision had to do with the moral problem of our age, (Watch what began to happen in the 1960’s) centering mostly around women. God showed me that women began to be out of their place, (Can we all agree to that?) With their granting of the vote. Then they cut off their hair, which signified they were no longer under the authority of a man, but insisted on either equal rights, or in most cases, more than equal rights. She adopted men’s clothing, (Has that not happened?) And went into a state of undress, (I tell you, every time the sun shines, they come out like lizards, to bask in the sunshine. It might still be 38 degrees, but that makes no difference just as long as the sun shines.) Until the last picture I saw was a woman naked except for a little fig leaf type apron. With this vision I saw the terrible perversion and moral plight of the whole world.” I will show you what happened in our government, in our school systems and so forth, that helped bring that condition about. Now they are showing the new swimsuit for women this summer. It is no larger than a ladies handkerchief; and when they get in the water they dissolve. How devilish can human society get? How much worse can it get than that? Well, listen to this. (6) “Then in the sixth vision there arose up in America a most beautiful, but cruel women. She held the people in her complete power. I believed that this was the rise of the Roman Catholic Church, though I knew it could possibly be a vision of some woman rising in great power in America due to a popular vote by women.” I have the book right here to vindicate that: It is titled, “Big Sister is Watching You.” The man who wrote it did not write it in any biased way, but knowing the type character she is, that she is one of the most ornery creatures that has ever been brought into the federal government and into our White House. I realize a lot of people say, How do you know all these things are true? Because too many people are suffering because of the orneriness of it. The state of Arkansas is crying out, but people are so passive they say, Well I don’t know whether to believe it or not. You are going to find out one of these days, when your house is blown to pieces, that the devil has been creeping up the streets, right into our government; and the whole approach is to take away everything that is associated with dignity and integrity, that belongs to you and me. Well here is the thing followed that. (7) “The last and seventh vision was wherein I heard a most terrible explosion. As I turned to look I saw nothing but debris, craters, and smoke all over the land of America.” Naturally in those years, he thought maybe that might mean that in the end time there might be some kind of sneak attack by Russia. But now, in the light of current events, social developments, and the turmoil we have within the American society, if you will put this together with what happened in Lost Angeles three or four years ago, there is enough explosive social unrest in this nation to rip this nation from one end to another. This makes me feel the end is in sight because he never saw anything beyond that. That does not mean we can put it into weeks or months; but we do need to think about what happened at Waco, Texas. That thing came to surface after this man got in office. Right? You never heard about it before then. Look who he picked to put in power in certain strategic offices. From Dade County Florida he picked this person, Janet Reno. What a woman! She is not a mother. Her past record is not clean. The Dade County police have told what kind of character she is. Janet Reno would not have been my choice for the job she has. I will never forget, when she was telling the FBI at Waco, go get them. One of these days God is going to turn the dogs loose on her, Go get her; and they will. There, she was, looking at Oklahoma City, and telling the FBI and all the secret law enforcement people, Go get them. We need that kind of a woman in the job she is in just about as badly as we need a jack rabbit running the rest of our government. If this president would have at least picked people of character, of integrity, to fill those important jobs, it would have made a big difference to the American people. Right there, are the writings. Concerning all those females the President picked, do you know what he is telling you? I am going to reshape America. Yes, to fit his life style, his ideology, and his political views, which in my opinion are Satanic. Some people will say, You have no right to talk about your president. You should do what the Bible says, pray for our leaders. Well in my opinion, There are some people it does no good to pray for: They fall in line with what Paul said in Romans, where he spoke of people who are abusers of themselves with mankind. He even went so far as to say, They that do such things are worthy of death. A lot of people in America do not yet realize it, but our whole political system is sick. Do not think I am saying that because of political party affiliation: I do not put one party above the other. They are all guilty of using te federal government positions for the past number of years to play ball in their own court, to go hopping around the world, putting out all their aide for the arts and whatever else they choose. They never thought that one day this would come to an end, that God would actually call things to a halt. I will pray for any man in government that has the sense to try to do his job with common sense and integrity, and a realization that he is in that office to do his very best for the constituency he has under him. However when he starts using that office to carry on some kind of wholesale program, that in the end does not benefit one person other than himself, I cannot pray for anything other than for God to somehow get him out of that office. Nevertheless I just have to feel like the trend of everything had to go this way, from the scientific standpoint and the moral standpoint, to bring America to the point where those last two visions are vindicated. In other words, all signs point to the end of time.
Let us now go to the scriptures, to Matthew 24. I am going to read verses 7 and 8, “For nation shall rise against nation.” That has been a picture ever since WW2. On an October morning, it was a chilly morning, I was on Okinawa. The war is over, and we were waiting our turn to come home. A second lieutenant called us out; and we sat down on a grassy knoll. He had an article he wanted to read to us. He said, Boys, I have an article here from the State Department. This is giving us welcome information. They are forming the United Nations Organization. Of course he went through the display of reading the layout of it, what all of this was to be, and what it was to accomplish. He said, They feel that after these two drastic ward, WW1 and WW2, that it is time for world leaders to get their heads together, and bring their governments together to resolve differences, and to draft an agreement, and set up a system where the world can function like the states in the United States. He said, In other words, this charter is to bring an end to all wars. I was not a Christian at that time, but I remembered what the Bible said, Isaiah, in that day they will cast their gold and their silver into the streets. They will cry for peace but there will be no peace. I thought to myself, So you say. That was in October 1945. Eight years later we were in another war, in Korea.